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Law vs ethics — again.

Killing two bolshie birds with one stone

Pete North asks if the Union can survive Brexit and “do we really care?” Personally I think this damp archipelago, including Ireland, belongs together. We Scots, Welsh, English and Irish are interbred beyond all separation. I never encountered an unmixed family. More importantly we are unarguably one people culturally. We teach our children the same nursery rhymes, laugh at the same jokes and share the same magnificent literature, art and music.

Most of us can’t tell without asking which of the nations our fellows “belong” to. I stopped calling myself Welsh after a vile nationalist was rude to my English mum and no-one but her noticed. It seems, if not crazy, then at least very petty-minded to separate politically — even leaving aside the economics of it.

What’s driving the Irish government nuts about Brexit is how obvious it will make it that the Republic is economically not independent at all. No more would Scotland be. As Pete unkindly says, it would be “Zimbabwe with fried Mars Bars.” That’s perhaps a little harsh and unhelpful in such delicate discussions as we may be about to have, but not entirely unfair  

It is odd that people who think multiculturalism will unite peoples with the most profound ethical and ideological differences can also believe trivial differences between the Home Nations necessitate actual apartheid. Holding contradictory ideas in the same brain is a key postmodernist skill, I guess. Yet the Union is voluntary or it’s nothing. If the Scots want out, as the Irish did in their day, then that’s up to them and off they must trot. Sad though that will be for me and my Scottish pals (all of whom are economically-active Unionists). 

I don’t see why only the Scots (and others who happen to live there) should be asked to decide though. The United Kingdom, not its component parts, is the member state of the EU. However Brexit goes, if Scotland leaves the UK it will then have to apply to join (not rejoin) the EU. Previous applicants had to demonstrate economic stability before admission. That would prove difficult for a Scotland deprived of English gold. Spain, afraid of its Catalans (and far less relaxed about separatism than England) would veto their application. Their path would be rocky and that would never do because we love them and wish them well. So wouldn't it be better instead to ask the other Home Nations if they want to leave the Union?

England would certainly do so. It contains 85% of the UK population but 95% of the economy. Even if it took a Barnett formula adjusted share of the national debt with it, it would be a far richer country and the threat of Celtic-fringe imposed Socialism would be removed forever. Goodbye Mr Corbyn.

I’d be relaxed either way but I imagine Wales would vote to leave the UK too. We Welsh like to rattle our sabres in imitation of the Scots in pursuit of subsidies etc., but we know which side our bara brith is buttered. If Northern Ireland voted to remain in the rump UK, then the reduced member state could withdraw its Article 50 notice and the Brexit divide would be neatly resolved. Leave-voting England (& Wales) would be free from whatever EU or post-Brexit treaty entanglements remained at a single bound. The Irish could stop bleating about backstops and deal instead with the other side of the sectarian terrorist violence they encouraged (and clandestinely supported) for so long.

It’s an actual opportunity for karma, no less!

My contempt for the farce that is the UN is so profound that the idea of Scotland on its security council actually quite appeals. If Saudi Arabia can be a member of the UN “human rights” council, why the hell should a nuclear-free Scotland not sit at the top table with Russia, China and the US? Particularly as the US has always meddled in the UK’s internal affairs on the side even of violent nationalists. It would be hilarious to see the US government’s reaction to the Scottish Peoples Republic wielding its veto. Yet more karma in fact! In an ideal world our old comrade Councillor Terry Kelly would be Scotland’s U.N. ambassador!


I offer this solution, as you will have discerned by now, mostly in jest. It’s far too sensible for the buffoons in power to accept it and of course far too much of a threat to their globalist agenda. But what actual objections — gentles all — do you see to it? 


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For most member states that’s just what it is. I just don’t get it myself. Every penny I have left (after most were taken by state force) was paid to me under contracts freely entered into by clients with many other choices. So I sleep easy. I would be ashamed to live as a public employee, paid with money taken by force from my fellow men. I’d be almost equally ashamed to be a citizen of a beggar state, though if I was making an honest living myself I guess I’d survive. I don’t understand why any decent human would be happy to be a parasite.


I have a feeling that "shabby quests for subsidy" is the inevitable end product of socialism and centralisation wherever those evil influences lurk.

The EU is a good example!


I can see that it’s a big prize but it’s not exactly a noble one, is it? Not one that brave Scots bled for. Just a shabby quest for subsidy. In its way, an admission of an inferiority their English friends would never ascribe to them. Sad.


No, I don't believe "they" do, really. The SNP does, probably just because they're expected to support it but also because there's something they want. I suspect Nicola and her chums would be frightened half to death if the English got a vote on Scottish independence, because they'd know their bluff was well and truly called.

I lived in a fairly isolated part of Scotland for a number of years. The Scottish political obsession with the EU comes from their desire to qualify again for Objective One funding (or whatever replaced it) which the north of Scotland lost some years ago. Shorn of the support of England and its economy, and if (big if, as you point out) a member of the EU, they'd qualify for huge support and development payments as did the RoI and Poland in their day, and as others do now. The political classes could spend it all on renewables and supporting wacko State-sponsored "initiatives" AND signal their climatic virtue in a single smooth move, all whilst cocking a snook at the Auld Enemy.

Big prize to play for.


But they don’t want actual independence do they? The magnificent William Wallace would despise the SNP’s shabby aspirations. Their only foreign policy (rather like Ireland in the Brexit negotiations) would be to spite England. They see a United States of Europe as a good way to do that, designed as it is by England-hating France and funded by everyone who thinks they’re as good as Germany-hating Germany. They’re like a flea in search of a juicier dog. Or a dependent teenager snarling at the mum and dad that feeds him. They’d rapidly assume the same stance within a USE and I’d enjoy watching them fall into the same toxic relationship with Germany and France they’ve always had with us. Still love them though.


You do ask some big questions......!

Cannot but agree that if the Scots and Welsh want independence, then in principle they should have it. What would, I'm sure, make the vote a "done deal" would be if the English voted too, for or agin an independence motion. "Don't let the door bang you on the arse on the way out" would be a likely outcome...

However, perhaps any small wannabe nation thinking of secession from the United Kingdom might consider for a moment the risk of jumping from the frying pan into the fire. No longer an outpost or satellite of the despised English, but instead an outpost of a new breed of Chinese empire-building. African nations, more recently Greece, currently Italy and even little places like St Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean; no place is too small or too remote to receive the attentions of a wealthy Chinese government which will sweep in and "help".

In Africa, it's for minerals. In Greece, container ports. Italy, ditto. In St Kitts, we saw a giant hospital being built by Chinese labour and paid for by Chinese money on a turnkey basis which includes supplying doctors and nurses to train local medics in the use of 21st century medical equipment.

In Scotland, what would it be? Not grouse moors, I suspect, and not Nicola's unlovely smile. But Scotland's neighbour to the south might have some wholly reasonable concerns about security, and so might that neighbour's strategic allies in the Five Eyes. I imagine the Navy will be less than pleased, too, what with the only practical deep-water nuclear submarine base in the UK being at Faslane.

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