The wrong road
Thursday, April 23, 2009
Poland 'to ban' Che Guevara image - Telegraph
Of course, I understand where the Polish government is coming from. Like Germany it already bans Nazi paraphernalia. Interestingly, neither country needs to ban Mein Kampf, because the German Land of Bavaria owns the copyright and has always prevented republication. However in 2015,
70 years after the death of the book's author, the
copyright will expire and new laws will be needed if it is to continue to be suppressed.
The Polish people have lived under both Nazism and Communism. They had a hard time of it under both. It is scarcely surprising that some should see it as inconsistent to ban the propaganda of one set of totalitarians, but not the other. We libertarians, of course, would ban neither. I cannot imagine why anyone would wish to sport a swastika, but I certainly would find it no more offensive than "CCCP," the hammer and sickle or Che Guevara on a T-shirt. If people want to reveal themselves as supporters of evil ideas, then that is good for public safety. It is the unseen supporters who are dangerous. Far better therefore never to set out on the treacherous path of banning.
If Adolf Hitler is too evil to feature on a T-shirt, then why not ban Che Guevara too? Or Marx, Lenin and Stalin? The problem is - as always - not where to start but where to stop. If Trotsky, then why not - for example - Mohammed? If Mein Kampf, then why not The Koran? Far better never to take that road, than to face such choices. Far better to have all ideas aired openly, the better to defend ourselves against them.
"The freedom of a libertarian's fist ends at your nose - or anyone else's." Dhimmi Libertarian.
"If you read Miss California has been murdered you know it was me" Alan Duncan Member of Parliament Libertarian.
HIGNFY http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00k2ph9 23:50 minutes into programme.
Posted by: Kinderling | Saturday, April 25, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Who is going to train the monkey, Kinderling? You? Only our discourse can do that. As you too have made others aware of issues. Once people realise for themselves, the geni cannot be put back in the bottle. Then the Jacqui Smiths cannot walk as priestess to the Goddess Socialism without gaffaws. I am a great believer in family. Everyone should understand themselves. Awareness. I teach about Astronomy and not the alternative Astrology, religion and not Religion, about sexuality and not Sexuality, liberty and not Libertarianism, socialism and not Communism, capitalism and not Fascism, diversity and not Diversity. The latters all put the egotist in the very centre. They are the problem. They block The Way.
Because we have determined that a few personalities shall run our political system it is of importance that we demand of them to have the highest consciousness, as a father needs to serve his family. This is how good leaders trickled down their values to the nation. During Thatcher's and Regan's years their nations felt good about themselves. For the common bond between mankind is character and not Diversity. Did Margeret Thatcher bring in Section 28 to prevent the promotion of homosexuality in schools? Of course she did, as any sensible person would when they saw the pervertedc literature of James & John handed to prepubescents.
Laws are meant to be negative. They free you from bad people. Laws that are positive rid you of good people.
"And what is it with you and paedophilia?" In the last 10 years there has been a massive increase in unloved children. Erotica displaces emotional attachment. Titillation desensitises. We have an alcoholic epidemic and now we have a sexual one. You treat your wife as a whore, you draw out hell that hath no quenching, for the king-maker is truly the king: The Socialist.
NuLabour use Paedophiles to distract from the many many homosexuals recruited into their order. Release Paedos early with no cure (and there is one) and we get all jittery. They are merely the scapgoats to distract you what is going on on Billionaire's boats. The imates run the assylm. So this is always my concern: the hand behind the puppets.
Posted by: Kinderling | Friday, April 24, 2009 at 03:58 PM
Who is going to train the monkey, Kinderling? You? And who will decide it's going to be you? Because right now, in our venerable democracy, low creatures like Jacqui Smith are setting the agenda. All but a tiny minority of young monkeys would grow up better primates under the sole guidance of their own families. I am not against morals, ethics or any of the things you seem to believe in (as far as I understand you). I just don't see any sign of them originating from the state. Do you?
And what is it with you and paedophilia? You are almost as obsessed as New Labour. But I understand their obsession, because it whips the proles into obedience to claim that every authoritarian initiative is to protect children from paedos. What's your interest in the subject?
Posted by: Tom | Friday, April 24, 2009 at 11:04 AM
How might anyone make child pornography without a child being aware or hurt? By having peep hole cameras.
If you are thinking cartoons or CGI, then fine. Unbelievable. In the main street cinema "Walt Dyznees Paedophilia 4 - Love your brother", on BBC 3 "Dr Who - Going back into Thyme". oh, as long as it's only cartoon...
The freedom of a libertarian's fist ends at your nose - or anyone else's. Paci-fist. No use to anyone. China just walked into Tibet. The Muslims into Hindustan. The paedophiles into Libertarinistan.
I don't care (and, respectfully, neither should you) what people do to themselves (or with consent) to each other. You have to understand the nature of addiction and traumatic hypnosis. It is to offer help to these people, not to agree and shuffle to one side to make room. To offer Drug/alcohol clinics, psychological support, it to be able to present there is an alternative. It isn't to liberate the body as you argue, it is to liberate the mind. Freedom of choice is being able to make a freedom of choice.
As for "fighting" drugs, I see no need. Everyone in Britain who wants to take them is doing so. All those laws are doing is keeping sub-standard product on the market at high prices and building the power of organised crime, rather than the profits of Boots the Chemist. Then you have no realisation that people are not as advanced as you think you are. When China was overun by cheap opium it ruined their economy. This will be far far worse than just having smokers exhaling in your face over dinner.
Police time would be far better spent defending person and property. Yet you create the need for police.
If you have an urge to dictate to others how to live, come clean about it. You are far from alone. No, I believe in freedom for the monkey to become conscious. Your solutions are nothing of the sort.
Posted by: Kinderling | Friday, April 24, 2009 at 08:38 AM
The alternative to being told what to do all the time is not to do every evil thing there is. What a low view of humanity you have.
How might anyone make child pornography without a child being aware or hurt? If you are thinking cartoons or CGI, then fine. The freedom of a libertarian's fist ends at your nose - or anyone else's. I don't care (and, respectfully, neither should you) what people do to themselves (or with consent) to each other. Since no child is able to give legal consent to anything there's really no problem. As for "fighting" drugs, I see no need. Everyone in Britain who wants to take them is doing so. All those laws are doing is keeping sub-standard product on the market at high prices and building the power of organised crime, rather than the profits of Boots the Chemist. Police time would be far better spent defending person and property.
If you have an urge to dictate to others how to live, come clean about it. You are far from alone.
Posted by: Tom | Friday, April 24, 2009 at 05:37 AM
And if Koran the why not Child Pornography.... The Libertarian is defenceless to answer. Why not, if no child was aware or hurt? The armour they carry that should protect our Liberty is made by charlatan tailors laughing up their sleeves. A puff of intellectual arguments.
Appetite always precedes consumption. Hitler had a market of disenfranchised people, so does now the UK for the BNP. You cannot fight drugs with Libertarianism and expect the world to be all right.
It is not a Libertarian society that frees the people... it simply leads them to further bondage... it one where every child is welcomed into the world. For they shall be fed.
Posted by: Kinderling | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 11:14 PM